Hundreds of £Millions Already Spent on Moorside #Boycott Toshiba!

#StopMoorside  Carlisle 30th June
Carlisle 30th June

We went along to the Moorside smoke and mirrors CONsultation today.    NuGen’s Stephen Bray told us that the consultation is “not about whether the new build will go ahead”  as that has already been decided by the government and the people of Cumbria who “invited”  nuclear developers.  We replied that there was no “invitation” to nuclear developers only previous consultations one of which was described in 2007 in the High Court as: “misleading, seriously flawed, manifestly inadequate and procedurally unfair”, and Government plans to build a new generation of nuclear power stations were “unlawful.”

On the question of whether there would be cooling towers or a giant heat exchange out at sea, the reply was “there might be both.”  On the question of how high: the reply was an evasive “maybe like the Calder Towers”  which were 90 metres high…but don’t worry “the landscaping will hide them anyway”  The AP1000 cooling towers being built in China now are 209 meters high.

If the “landscaping” proposed is bunds dug up from around Sellafield then NuGen’s partner GDF SUEZ/Engie used the excuse of the land “being too contaminated”  at Sellafield for it to be a low level nuclear waste dump.  This was when GDF SUEZ was pushing for a nuclear dump in an old coal mine at Keekle Head.  Its “too contaminated” when it suits…but now  apparently its fine for digging up as a screen around huge cooling towers.

On the question of fresh water use, Mr Bray told us that “no fresh water would be needed apart from during construction”…..really?  This is hogwash.  For one thing where is the contaminated laundry going to be washed?  At Shortridge? At Sellafield?  Sellafield already abstracts over 4 million gallons of fresh water a day from Wastwater.  Maybe United Utilities are more truthful.  In talking about the proposed Thirlmere pipeline they have said: “We have had discussions with NuGen who have told us that they expect to have cooling, construction and ongoing water use needs. At this stage in development their exact needs are unknown”

On sunk costs we were told NuGen have already spent hundreds of millions on the Moorside Project.  If a project is too big to fail, it is too big and Moorside is becoming a project too big to fail with enormous financial incentives from the unwitting UK taxpayer.

Why on earth are Toshiba/Westinghouse/GDF SUEZ spending this much on new nuclear having had such a disastrous experience in Fukushima?  If these companies whose products created such severe damage can walk away while the people are forced to pay the cost, the Fukushima disaster will be repeated…and it will be repeated here in Cumbria.

Other questions Asked: As Toshiba has shares in the Kazakhstan state owned uranium company, would NuGen use uranium from Kazakhstan?    Reply:  “Yes, no one has expressed any concerns, it is not an issue”

What about the health of workers and the public given a new report out this month that provides “strong evidence of a dose-response relationship between cumulative, external, chronic, low-dose, exposures to radiation and leukaemia”. Reply.  “It is not an issue”

Please write to the sham CONsultation (just use: Freepost, Moorside, Have Your Say) saying that you will Boycott Toshiba products because of their aggressive push for new nuclear here in Cumbria.

I was told that Fergus McMorrow the head of NuGen PR and former Copeland Head of Planning had a chuckle at us asking why the 2016 Copeland plan which said there should be NO NEW HAZARDOUS INSTALLATIONS next to Sellafield was being ignored. I don’t see what there is in their vicious subterfuge to chuckle about.

Anyway……I pushed over the NuGen exhibition boards on my own behalf (not on Radiation Free Lakeland’s) …and was told to leave.

NuGen should be the ones leaving…and the sooner the better!


Do Not Add Fracking wastes to NW’s Already Intolerable Radioactive Burden

Frack Off, We are already being NUKED
Frack Off, We are already being NUKED

As you will have heard Lancashire is still under threat from Cuadrilla’s second fracking application at Preston New Road.  There is a demo tomorrow in Preston more here:

What you may not have heard is that Springfields in Preston is gearing up to produce “high burn” uranium fuel for the proposed 4 nuclear reactors in Cumbria. Some of the most dangerous Radioactive wastes known to man would be released to the River Ribble, the air, and Clifton Marsh landfill.

Radiation Free Lakeland’s message to Lancashire Councillors is:

Please do not add fracking to the already intolerable radioactive burden on the North West.  

More info:

Radioactive Risks of Fracking

Radioactive Risks of Nuclear


139 Years After Custer’s Last Stand, Lakota Sioux Fight Foreign Uranium Miners in Custer County South Dakota

Mining Awareness +

Even as Obama pretends to love the Lakota Sioux, he does nothing to protect them from foreign uranium miners.
Obama greets boy at Standing Rock Sioux Reservation, Cannon Ball, ND, 13 June 2014, Off. Wh. House photo by Pete Souza
Standing Rock Sioux Reservation, June 2014, by WH-Pete Souza
Custer Sitting Bull Little Big Horn NPS
Like a handful of battles in American history, the defeat of 12 companies of Seventh Cavalry by Lakota (Sioux), Cheyenne, and Arapaho warriors rose beyond its military significance to the level of myth.

American Indians learned that they cannot beat the superior force of the US military in the long run, and instead must use lawyers to fight for the land.
Charles Marion Russell - The Custer Fight (1903)
Charles Marion Russell – The Custer Fight (1903)
"Crying Earth Rise Up! Environmental Justice & The Survival Of A People: Uranium Mining & the Oglala Lakota People" (Copy Left by Owe Aku, Bring Back the Way ) Color added
Image from “Crying Earth Rise Up! Environmental Justice & The Survival Of A People: Uranium Mining & the Oglala Lakota People”(Copy Left by Owe Aku, Bring Back the Way); color added.

Most people think that these abuses of the American Indians are past history. But, they are ongoing.[1] In the…

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Letter in Windermere Now –

The Lake District - pre the parochial National Park Boundary
The Lake District – pre the parochial National Park Boundary

Dear Windermere Now,
Radiation Free Lakeland have been misrepresented in the “Woolly Thinker”
article as having a “not in my back yard mentality”
The much hyped reactors at Moorside would produce less than 2% of the
UKs energy.  This could easily be achieved in far less damaging ways. The
developers Nugen wrongly claimed in every Cumbrian newspaper that the
amount produced would be 7%. In order to clear the decks and dump
radioactive wastes, new undemocratic laws have been put in place. This
is a form of abuse. Radiation Free Lakeland’s view is that geological
dumping of nuclear wastes should not be carried out in anyone’s backyard.

Not in the flat, arid, dry geology of Australia and not here in our
mountainous, complex geology. Geological dumping of nuclear wastes does
not equate to containment. Radioactive gases would be released, lifting
the ground, bringing wastes to the surface and contaminating water
supplies long before the planned percolation of radioactive wastes to
the Irish Sea. The proposed “high burn” waste from Moorside would be hotter than from existing plants and take decades longer to cool.

United Utilities say “We have had discussions with NuGen who have told
us that they expect to have cooling, construction and ongoing water use
needs. At this stage in development their exact needs are unknown.”
At present over 4 million gallons a day are abstracted from Wastwater and other sources such as the Calder and the River Ehen to cool the heels of
Sellafield. To put this into perspective: Thirlmere aqueduct, an
underground tunnel from the Lake District, two metres wide and 84 miles
long, moves up to two million gallons of fresh water every day into the
Manchester water system.

Scientists agree that another catastrophe on the scale of Chernobyl and
Fukushima could happen anytime anywhere. Meanwhile ‘historic’
nuclear  wastes continue to arrive at Sellafield by the week. The logical option
is to STOP and CONTAIN

yours sincerely,

Marianne Birkby

on behalf of Radiation Free Lakeland


Anti Nuclear Art Therapy for Grown Ups!   #STOP MOORSIDE!
Anti Nuclear Art Therapy for Grown Ups! (&children)
#STOP MOORSIDE! Print out and Colour as much or as little as you like, and then pop in an envelope to send to: FreePost, Moorside, Have Your Say – let the developers NuGen (60% Toshiba/40% Engie) know that you will be boycotting Toshiba products as a result of their aggressive push for dangerous new reactors near Sellafield.

STOP MOORSIDE! North Cumbria CND, Cumbria and Lancashire Area CND and Radiation Free Lakeland are holding a series of events to protest against  the building of nuclear reactors in Cumbria.

These events are timed to run alongside and inform the NuGen Moorside Consultation. NuGen, a UK nuclear company, is a joint venture between Toshiba and ENGIE (formerly GDF SUEZ) bidding to purchase government (publicly) owned Moorside, farmland on the flood plain of the River Ehen, in order to build the reactors on greenfields in the village of Beckermet a few miles from Sellafield.

In order to gain the public approval necessary NuGen has launched the Moorside Consultation.  This was described by former NuGen Chief  Executive Sandy  Rupprecht as a means to “shape plans.” However, members of the public attending the consultation at Whitehaven on 16th May were told by a NuGen representative that “nothing will stop the construction.”

Thousands of people have already signed the ‘Stop Moorside!’ petition which says: “We urge David Cameron and the leaders of Europe to scrap plans for Moorside. The UK Government is planning to sell a vast area of Cumbria to the same companies responsible for the Fukushima disaster, so that they can build new nuclear reactors. Please don’t risk the safety of Europe by turning Cumbria into a nuclear sacrifice zone.”

Marianne Birkby of Radiation Free Lakeland says: “We are bewildered why Toshiba should be engaging in an aggressive push for new nuclear build here in Cumbria.  Toshiba are still battling to contain the results of the  Fukushma disaster in their own country.  We saw their Reactor 3 explode before our eyes.  Their  latest efforts at containment have been halted by a ‘glitch’ which has lasted for over a year.  And even without accident or incident, the links between routine emissions from nuclear reactors and childhood leukaemia have now been confirmed.”

Irene Sanderson of North Cumbria CND adds, “The US Energy Information Administration recently concluded that using nuclear power as a climate ‘solution’ would prevent the deployment of the renewable technologies that are faster and cheaper at reducing carbon emissions and  are safer and cleaner overall to boot.”

The Stop Moorside petition will be available for people to sign at the protests.  There will also be postcards for pledging a boycott of Toshiba products.

Artists and musicians will be contributing to the Kendal event on 7th July. The events are open to all.

Carlisle 30th June – Leafletting and Demonstration outside the Hallmark Hotel
 (11am until 1pm)

Kendal 7th July – Stop Moorside – Music and Art!  10am -4pm at the Bird Cage.

Penrith 8th July – Leafletting and Demonstration outside the Methodist Church (from 11am)

STOP PRESS We have just heard that other events are taking place independently to #StopMoorside, a movement which is now growing apace:

Stephen from West Cumbria will hold a vigil at the top of Dent Fell on 3rd July. He says, “We all need to ‘Stand Up To Cancer’ and the main causes of cancer!”

References Moorside Consultation Toshiba and Fukushima Stop Moorside Petition Nuclear Power Kills Radioactive Spikes from Nuclear Plants, a Likely Cause of Childhood Leukemia Compensation Scheme for Radiation Linked Diseases Rally at the Top of Dent Fell – 3rd July

We Don’t Need Nuclear Power
Dr Ian Fairlie
Jonathon Porritt
Jonathon Porritt

Dr Ian Fairlie and Jonathon Porritt on:

Why We Don’t Really Need Nuclear Power

Recently, interesting and lively correspondence on the merits and demerits of nuclear power has taken place between Dr Becky Martin, a geneticist formerly at Oxford University and Baroness Worthington, the Labour Party’s energy spokesperson in the House of Lords.

Dr Martin’s initial letter can be found at

Bryony Worthington’s response can be found at

Jonathan Porritt is co-founder of Forum for the Future, and of The Prince of Wales’s Business & Sustainability Programme, and was Chair of the UK Sustainable Development Commission from 2000 to 2009. He is presently Chancellor of Keele University.

Jonathan and myself were equally exasperated by Baroness Worthington’s reply and with Dr Martin’s permission we sent the following letter to the Baroness.

Baroness Worthington
House of Lords
London SW1 1A 0PW
Cc Dr Becky Martin
June 15, 2015

Dear Baroness Worthington

We were disappointed to read your praise for nuclear power in response to Dr Becky Martin. She will no doubt wish to reply, but we hope you won’t mind us replying as well.

If we understand your letter correctly, you are mainly concerned about the threat of climate change, and believe that nuclear is an important part of the answer. We are also very concerned about climate change, seeing it is the largest challenge facing us all today. But in our view nuclear is at best a distraction, and at worst a hindrance to tackling CO2 emissions. Let us explain why.

In 2005, the former Sustainable Development Commission (of which one of us was Chair) published a report which examined the contribution that a 10 GW new nuclear programme would make to reducing the UK’s CO2emissions. The answer was between 4% and 8%, depending on assumptions. By and large, the same is true world-wide: to make a significant contribution, hundreds of new nuclear power stations would need to be built around the world very quickly. This is simply not going to occur, despite your best wishes.

Regarding Life Cycle Assessments (LCAs) for nuclear power, we have tried to make sense of your comments, but they were unclear. Let’s keep it simple and straightforward. From the available LCA evidence, it appears that most renewables come in between 5g and 30g of CO2 per kWh, nuclear at an average of around 70, gas-fired stations at around 400, and coal-fired at around 1,000. Does this argue for more nuclear, or perhaps for more renewables?

At this point, I’m sure you’ll be asking the same question as us: what are the relative costs per g of CO2 saved? There are fewer studies here, but the US Rocky Mountain Institute has published several analyses concluding that efficiency measures are the most cost effective, and nuclear the least cost effective, mainly because of its eye-wateringly high construction costs. As you will be aware, the estimated costs of just one proposed station, Hinkley C, are about £24.5 billion. And nuclear costs continue to rise, whereas the costs of renewables continue to fall, at a gratifyingly rapid pace.

You conclude that we should support nuclear on “moral, ethical, scientific and environmental grounds”. This is stretching the bounds of credibility, as many people object to nuclear on precisely these grounds.

For example, take our really hard-to-handle and extremely radioactive nuclear wastes. Is it either moral or ethical to pass these problems on to our children and grandchildren, as we are now doing? You lay claim to ‘environmental grounds’, but what about the Irish Sea – the most radioactively polluted sea in the world as a consequence of Sellafield’s operations? And what about the dozens of Welsh hill farms still subject to food restriction orders as a result of pollution by the radioactive plumes from Chernobyl in 1986? And what about the Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011? You say ‘scientific’, but what about the 40 or so studies world-wide indicating increased child leukemias near nuclear reactors?

In our view, as two individuals involved in these matters for more than 40 years, nuclear is so undemocratic, uneconomic, unsustainable, unhealthy and unsafe that anyone who continues to support today’s increasingly corrupted nuclear dream would appear to have lost at least part of their own moral compass.

Yours sincerely

Jonathan Porritt
Dr Ian Fairlie

Council Urged: No Fracking in Lancashire – Take Responsibility for Existing Risk!

River Ribble
River Ribble

Letter sent today to all Lancashire County Council’s Development Control Committee members.

Dear Lancashire County Council Development Control Committee,

Radiation Free Lakeland are a voluntary group with supporters in Cumbria and Lancashire and we are writing to you to oppose the two applications for fracking you are considering tomorrow.

Both Lancashire and Cumbria already have an intolerable burden of accumulating radioactive wastes from the nuclear industry without adding fracking wastes to the mix. Tommorrow you will receive copies of 101 letters from people in both Cumbria and Lancashire asking that these two county councils get together to reinstate independent radiation monitoring.

We applaud Cumbria County Council’s opposition to geological disposal of nuclear wastes. However the support for new nuclear build and the accelerating dispersal of radioactive wastes from the nuclear industry by novel routes is already a very real and present threat to the people of the North West. Without adding Fracking to the toxic mix, there is already an escalation of risk to the public with:

  1. Proposed accelerated imports of Uranium Hexaflouride for new nuclear reactors.
  2. Uranium Enrichment at Capenhurst in Cheshire.
  3. Fuel manufacture at Springfields in Preston.
  4. At each stage there is dispersal of radioactive waste to the environment: to air, to landfill to watercourses eg the River Ribble.

At the same time as the acceleration of radioactivity to the environment is increasing the health risk to the people of the North West, there is an abdication of responsibility for that risk. We ask that Lancashire County Council take responsibility and

  1. Refuse all applications for fracking
  2. Reintroduce independent radioactive monitoring in Lancashire of the kind Lancashire County Council (Radiation Monitoring in Lancashire) did up until it was scrapped due to Council cuts a few years ago.

Yours sincerely,

Marianne Birkby

On behalf of Radiation Free Lakeland


Radiation Free Lakeland!

Radioactive Risks of Fracking

Radioactive Risks of Nuclear

Letter to Cumbria Cabinet asking for reinstatement of Radiation Monitoring

Correspondence with Lancashire County Council’s Chief Scientist

From: ENV Lancashire County Scientific Services
Date: 31 March 2014 14:44:29 BST
To: ‘marianne Birkby’

Subject: RE: RADMIL

Dear Ms Birkby

The decision to discontinue radiation monitoring was taken about three years ago
by the Lancashire Chief Environmental Health Officers group. This was mainly due to budgetary pressure and the recognition that the background levels of radiation were very well established.

It was also decided that the remaining equipment would be held by Lancashire
County Scientific Services and maintained in good working order in case it might
assist in the recovery phase of an nuclear incident.

As the pressures on budgets have not eased I cannot see RADMIL being reinstated in the foreseeable future.

I hope this answers your question adequately. If you need any further information please do not hesitate to contact me.


Andrew Smith, BSc., PhD., M.Chem.A., C.Sci., C.Chem., M.R.S.C.

Lancashire County Council
County Scientific Services
Pedders Way
Riversway Docklands
Tel: 01772 721660 (Office)

The World & All that is in it, Endangered by Nuclear Energy, but it’s not their world to destroy

May Your God Go With You … in the work to Stop Nuclear and the Fossil fuel industries that Nuclear depends on.  This is a poignant post from the excellent Mining Awareness blog.  Especially relevant to Christians in Cumbria whose pastoral leader Lord Bishop Newcome is “enthusiastic” about “green” nuclear power.

Mining Awareness +

We are to be Good Stewards, Not Destroyers of the Environment: The World is Endangered by Nuclear Energy (and weapons)

There is nothing clean or good about nuclear energy. It legally and illegally leaks deadly radionuclides into the environment along the entire fuel chain from uranium mining to nuclear energy production to the unsolved problem of nuclear waste. Many radionuclides are deadly for hundreds and thousands of years. Some are deadly for even longer than humans have walked on the earth.

The threatened Mexican Spotted Owl and almost 100 other animal and plant “species of concern” are endangered by proposed uranium mining in the Grand Canyon area. Unknown numbers are endangered by active and proposed uranium mines in the US and elsewhere.
Mexican Spotted Owl US FWS
Gierisch Globe Mallow

Even ISL (In Situ Leach Uranium Mining) has a big ecological footprint, as can be seen in the picture below of Cameco’s Crow Butte ISL uranium…

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Nuclear “Too Expensive to Generate” Paul Flynn MP in the House of Commons Today

Nuclear joker burning public Money
Nuclear joker burning public Money

Many thanks to Paul Flynn MP for pointing out the truth about nuclear :too expensive to generate.

Meanwhile DECCs platitudes and nuclear spin are breathtaking

Westminster Hall
Wednesday 17 June 2015
[Mr Peter Bone in the Chair]
New Nuclear Power

11 am

Paul Flynn (Newport West) (Lab):
I beg to move,
That this House has considered new nuclear power.
Nuclear power was promised as an energy source that would be too cheap to meter. It is now too expensive to generate. If we were planning a nuclear policy from scratch, would we choose to do a deal with two French companies, one of which is bankrupt, while the other, Électricité de France, has a debt of €33 billion? Would we also collaborate with a country with a dreadful human rights record—China, whose national investment department is coming into the arrangement—and with Saudi Arabia, with its atrocious record on human rights, where people are executed on the street? We are left with the dregs of investment from throughout the world—fragile and tainted. The
sensible money deserted Hinkley Point years ago. Centrica had an investment of £200 million, and it abandoned it and ran away, because it saw the project as a basket case.
Still, nuclear power has wide support in this House, from almost all parties except the Scottish National party. I hope that this morning the new Minister, whom I welcome to her new work, can apply her distinguished forensic skills to taking a fresh look at the situation. Many people are gravely disturbed by the prospect of new nuclear power. That is particularly so among Treasury civil servants. We are in an extraordinary situation, where there is still public support in spite of Fukushima. One of the main reasons for that is that the British public were “protected” by a skilled public relations operation from knowing the terrible cost of Fukushima—between $100 billion and $250 billion. Radiation is still leaking four years after the event, and tens of thousands of people cannot return to their homes. Other populations were not protected from knowing about Fukushima by an obedient press. However, former lobbyists for nuclear power appeared as independent witnesses, such as Malcolm Grimston, who was on television every day during the Fukushima events, praising the explosions of hydrogen as something of benefit.

There is ludicrous PR spin, to the extent that this week two different people from a public relations agency that works for nuclear power rang me up and offered to write my speech for me. They inquired who the Chair would be, as if that might be important. Those are lobbyists and spinners, presenting a favourable case for
nuclear power. Hinkley Point B is a European pressurised reactor. There are some under construction in Finland, France and China. Not one of them has produced enough electricity to light a bicycle lamp. They are all in serious trouble, so why do we continue with our belief in Hinkley Point C? The EPR in Finland was due to generate electricity in 2009. There has been a series of delays, problems and cost overruns, which have themselves now overrun, and the bill is €4 billion greater than anticipated. The possible opening date has been moved year after year and is now set at 2016, at a
cost of €8.3 billion. However, other problems have come up. There is another station
under construction at Flamanville. It was due to be completed at a cost of €3.3
billion and now has an overrun of nearly €5 billion. There is a serious problem at
Flamanville which will affect all the reactors—the carbon level in the steel for the
pressure vessel is too high. That means that the steel is brittle and could crack
open, with catastrophic results. That affects the planned reactors in China,
Finland, France and of course at Hinkley Point. It is a catastrophic problem and
will mean a major delay. There is no way of reconstituting that steel.
The way the deal was done is almost unbelievable. We agreed under pressure, because
there were Government promises and political pressure, to do a deal at almost any
price to justify Hinkley Point C. We struck a deal for £92.50 per MWh. That is twice
the going rate for electricity now, and we said that we would guarantee that deal
for 35 years. That was two years ago. Since then, the price of energy throughout the
world has gone down a great deal, because of shale gas and the drop in the price of
oil. The price we agreed was ludicrous at the time—far too generous. The head of
INEOS, the company in Grangemouth, has struck a deal since then with the same
company— Électricité de France—for less than half that price. The country was ripped
off, and we cannot seem to get out of it. We must do something about the strike
price that we agreed.
In the world as a whole, nuclear powered energy generation peaked in 2006. Since
then it has been in decline. It has gone down by 10% in Europe. Most energy
consultants say that the total cost of the project is indefensible. We omit
something from our calculations of historical costs and pretend that nuclear is
cheap, when we forget about the cost of waste. In fact we do not know what the cost
of the waste from Sellafield is. We are still adding up the bill. The latest
estimate for clearing up Sellafield—just one site—is £53 billion. It is thought that
the figure will exceed £100 billion eventually. When those costs are added to the
historical costs of nuclear power it will not be found to be competitive any more.
Also, we now have alternatives. We are not in a situation where nothing else is
available. The world has moved towards renewables, including the clean renewables,
to a far greater extent. The Government are to be congratulated on having put
forward a package and the money for tidal lagoons in the Severn estuary. An enormous
tide of water sweeps up that estuary twice a day. That is vast untapped
energy—British, free, eternal and entirely predictable. The technology involved is
simple and has been working successfully in France for 50 years, producing the
cheapest electricity in the world.
It is a curious thing, but the Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change in
the previous Parliament had an impeccable record on energy some years ago, when he
launched the Liberal Democrat energy policy under the heading “Say No to Nuclear”,
saying that
“a new generation of nuclear power stations will cost taxpayers and consumers tens
of billions of pounds”.
That is absolutely right. He went on:
“In addition to posing safety and environmental risks, nuclear power will only be
possible with vast taxpayer subsidies or a rigged market”.
That was the man who, when the red boxes and chauffeur-driven car arrived, changed
his mind altogether and did a terrible financial deal to get Hinkley Point on the
road. We will be paying for that for many years. The cost of Hinkley Point has been
estimated as an additional £200 a year for every consumer in Britain. That is
billions of pounds in subsidy over 35 years. The Government have guaranteed £16
billion in subsidy for a technology that has not been proved to work and is not
working anywhere. Almost any alternative is better than pressing on with Hinkley
Point. There are older nuclear designs that we could use, but we are heading into a
technological jam where there will be difficulties. We are proposing to invest tens
of billions in a system that has not been proved to be effective, and has certainly
never proved to be economic.
There have been many problems at Flamanville, near Cherbourg, which are not limited
to the pressure vessel. There have also been problems with the valves and the whole
cooling system, following a warning in April from the French nuclear safety
regulator about an excessive amount of carbon in the reactor vessel. That is not a
journalist causing trouble but the head of the French nuclear industry talking about
a potential disaster in the making.
What is likely to happen in future? There is a nuclear disaster almost every 10 to
15 years, due to various causes. The result of Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and
Fukushima has been great fear among the population. That is what happened in
Germany, which felt the full force of the truth about Fukushima and sensibly
cancelled its whole nuclear programme. Germany is now going into solar power and
many other alternatives that are available to us. Tidal power is not available to
Germany, but we have that great opportunity ahead.
There will almost certainly be problems in future. Some hazards today were unknown
in the past. I recall going to an exhibition called “Atoms for Peace” as a young boy
in 1948, when we believed that nuclear would be the answer, but experience has
taught us otherwise. The possible accidents range from simple mechanical errors,
such as not having enough carbon in the steel, to the simple human errors that
happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl. Technical faults also occur, but the
greatest risk we now face is terrorism. Older nuclear power stations were not built
to withstand terrorist attacks by drones and all the means by which people could
attack them. Anyone living anywhere near a nuclear power station must be in a state
of anxiety about that possibility, because of the accidents and disasters we have
Fukushima was built to withstand a tsunami, but it could not withstand the tsunami
and earthquake that came together. Any of these natural disasters are possible. We
have not had a tsunami for some time along the Severn estuary, but we had one in
1607 when part of the area that I represent and the area where Hinkley Point now
stands was flooded by a tsunami that came up the Bristol channel. It is believed to
have come from underwater activity out in the deep ocean, so a tsunami is unlikely
but possible there. We cannot guard against it. Why on earth risk a catastrophic
accident when alternatives are available?
I am encouraged to see reports that many civil servants in the Treasury are deeply
unhappy about the financial situation of nuclear power. There was a story that if
Labour had been elected, it would have turned its back on nuclear power. I believe
that to be true. There have been reports in The Times and elsewhere—authoritative
reports from serious journalists—that groups in the Treasury are saying that it will
be a terrible mistake and a financial catastrophe if we go ahead. May I say to those
civil servants that it is their job to speak publicly? We know now what happened in
Scotland during the referendum debate, when Sir Nicholas Macpherson decided to
leak—to publish—a report of his advice to the Chancellor. His reason for doing so
was that he thought the likely effects of Scottish independence would be
catastrophic for the country and for Scotland. He justified that leak, which was
almost unprecedented among senior civil servants, on the basis that it was in the
national interest. He was supported by the head of the civil service, Sir Jeremy
Heywood, and condemned by a Committee of this House.
Look at the past; look, for example, the commercial advantages of the
steam-generating heavy water reactor, which produced nothing and was useless, but
cost £200 million. That was many years ago. There was also the decision to treat
Concorde as a commercial venture that would succeed. There were civil servants who
quite rightly opposed those, but the ethos of the civil service is the unimportance
of being right. The careers of civil servants who go along with the ministerial
folly of the day prosper, while the careers of those who are right in the long term
wither. It is different now. There is some heroism in civil servants speaking truth
to power and saying to their masters, “This should not go on. There are
alternatives. The time has gone for nuclear power.” Civil servants who know the new
ethos in the civil service should regard it as their patriotic duty to speak truth,
not only to power but to the nation, by saying that the time for nuclear power is
11.16 am

The Minister of State, Department of Energy and Climate Change (Andrea Leadsom):
It is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Bone. I congratulate the
hon. Member for Newport West (Paul Flynn) on securing the debate. New nuclear is an
important topic, and Members’ challenges and questions are very much welcomed. I
would particularly like to assure the hon. Gentleman that my fellow Ministers and I
listen carefully to civil servants’ views. There is no sense in which they are not
allowed to give their opinions, and they very much do so. I hope that reassures him.
I note his interest, as demonstrated by his recent parliamentary questions on
Hinkley Point C, the geological disposal facility, and safety and security at
licensed sites. I hope to reassure him further on those topics, but I will first set
the scene for the benefits of a new nuclear programme.
Nuclear energy plays a critical role in the Government’s security of supply and
decarbonisation goals. The UK’s nine existing nuclear power plants generate around
20% of our electricity. However, all but one of them are currently expected to
retire by 2030. Nuclear power is one of the cheaper forms of low-carbon electricity,
reducing pressures on consumer electricity bills, relative to an energy mix without
nuclear. Nuclear power provides reliable base-load electricity with lifecycle carbon
dioxide emissions similar to those from wind power and much less than those from
fossil fuels. New nuclear power is a vital part of the investment needed in our
electricity sector that will boost the economy, create thousands of jobs and help to
keep the lights on.
As set out in the Conservative party’s manifesto, we are committed to a significant
expansion in new nuclear in the UK. The Government have prepared the ground for new
nuclear power stations through a package of reforms and regulatory measures that
will remove barriers to investment and give developers the confidence to take
forward projects that will help to deliver secure, low-carbon and affordable energy.
We have also ensured that operators of new nuclear power stations put in place
robust plans for the finance and management of their waste and decommissioning from
the outset.
We are seeing significant progress. The first new nuclear power station in a
generation moved a step closer last year, as the European Commission announced on 8
October 2014 that it has approved the Hinkley Point C state aid case. The Government
and EDF are currently in discussions to finalise the contract for Hinkley, which is
expected to start generating electricity from 2023. In total, industry has set out
plans for five new nuclear projects in the UK for a total of up to 16 GW of new
nuclear capacity, providing around 35% of electricity generation.

Paul Flynn:
I would have been grateful if the hon. Lady had left behind her civil service brief,
which is the conventional one we know, with much repeated claims. Is it true that
the Chinese company is threatening to withdraw its investment unless it has a stake
in building Sizewell, Bradwell and Wylfa Newydd? That would mean that the new jobs
in nuclear were jobs in China and France, not here, because what it is offering to
provide is almost a ready-made nuclear power station, made by Chinese people with
Chinese money. We are using investment to create jobs not in this country, but

Andrea Leadsom:
I can assure the hon. Gentleman that each project is taken on its merits. Britain is
open for business. We are very keen to see investment from overseas in our new
nuclear, but it is very clear that the UK supply chain will provide an enormous
amount of the jobs and growth that we are looking for in this country.

Paul Flynn:
Will the hon. Lady give way?

Andrea Leadsom:
I will not give way. I want to go on to answer the hon. Gentleman’s other questions
and I will not get the chance to do that if this becomes a debate between the two of
us—a conversation between the two of us.
In total, industry has set out plans for five new nuclear projects. The Government
are clear that the UK is open for business. We want to see high-quality investment
from overseas. The nuclear programme represents a tremendous opportunity to
establish the UK as a key nuclear country, with the potential to export capabilities
to other countries. That includes capabilities in decommissioning, in which we are
already a world leader. This offers us an opportunity to develop our domestic supply
chain and to realise economies of scale. It is also an opportunity to make the UK an
even more attractive partner for international research and development

Paul Flynn:
This is utter nonsense. The person decommissioning at Sellafield is an American
company. We do not have any expertise. Will the Minister give us some idea, looking
at the historical cost, of what the cost of cleaning up Sellafield will be? It is
already admitted to be £53 billion; it is uninsurable, so the taxpayer has to take
the risk; and it will probably cost more than £100 billion, which wrecks her
argument that nuclear power has ever been good value.

Andrea Leadsom:
The hon. Gentleman is exactly right to point out that there is an enormous nuclear
legacy, which this Government have been committed to sorting out, unlike previous
Governments, such as the one that he was part of. The nuclear provision currently
stands at £70 billion discounted and £110 billion undiscounted. That is the Nuclear
Decommissioning Authority’s best estimate of the total lifetime costs of the
decommissioning mission across the whole estate. Nobody welcomes that cost.
Nevertheless, this Government have been determined to get to grips with it and to
ensure that the material can be safely, carefully, thoroughly and properly disposed
To deliver the ambitious new build programme on time and on budget, a skilled
workforce in the UK is essential. The scale of the industry’s new build aspirations,
the length of time since the last new build project and the high average age of the
existing nuclear workforce mean that it is essential to take action now to prevent
skills gaps from developing in the course of the new nuclear programme. The
Government recognise that this is a big challenge, particularly with the ongoing
need to maintain and decommission existing nuclear power stations, so we have
introduced the National College for Nuclear, which will work collaboratively with
the wider industry, skills bodies and training providers, and will utilise
international best practice to develop an industry-wide curriculum.
Moving on to the vital issues of safety and security, we are confident that the UK
has one of the most robust regulatory regimes in the world. As the global expansion
in nuclear continues, the UK will ensure that any technology used in this country
meets the rigorous safety, security and environmental standards. The importance that
we attach to safety is shown through the UK’s independent nuclear regulators—the
Office for Nuclear Regulation and the Environment Agency—which ensure, through
regular reviews and inspections, that operators are fulfilling their duties and that
robust safety and security measures are in place right across the industry.
With plans for 16 GW of new nuclear capacity in the UK, the Government are firmly
committed to delivering geological disposal as the safest and most secure means of
managing our higher-activity waste in the long term. We need a permanent solution
following more than 60 years of producing radioactive waste from various sources,
including electricity generation from nuclear power.

Paul Flynn:
The hon. Lady has been very generous to me. I think that she is probably too young
to remember the Flowers report in 1968, which said that the nuclear industry in
Britain was being irresponsible, because it did not have an answer on waste
disposal, and it should not continue. That was 1968. The solution then was to dig a
hole and put the nuclear waste in it. In 2015, the British answer is to dig a hole
and put the waste in it. There has been no progress on disposal of waste, except at
enormous cost.

Andrea Leadsom:
Let me very gently say to the hon. Gentleman that ever since I was a very small
child, nuclear has been an enormous personal priority for me. In fact, it was the
reason why I went into politics—I did so because of the threat of a nuclear world
war—so I am slightly offended by his presumption that I do not know what I am
talking about. I can assure him that a geological disposal facility is not as simple
as digging a hole in the ground and stuffing a load of radioactive waste in it.

Paul Flynn:
What is it, then?

Andrea Leadsom:
As the hon. Gentleman will know, a geological disposal facility is internationally
recognised as the safest and most secure means of permanently managing our
higher-activity waste, and countries such as Sweden, Finland, Canada and the USA are
also pursuing that route.
I would like to get on to answering the hon. Gentleman’s specific questions. He
talked about delays at other sites where there are EPR reactors. I can tell him that
officials have visited Olkiluoto to get first-hand experience of the build programme
there, as well as the other EPR builds at Flamanville in France and Taishan in
China. Experience gained through the EPR family—it is a new technology, as he points
out—is now being systematically shared between the three current build sites, and
Hinkley Point will become part of that arrangement. Experience in Finland and
France, particularly in relation to the order in which key parts of the nuclear
island are built and how they are fabricated, has benefited the project in Taishan,
such that that project is now running to time and to budget.
The hon. Gentleman also asked about the strike price potentially being too high in
relation to the EDF plant. I can assure him that our estimate of the future price of
wholesale electricity is that it will rise into the 2020s. That has been a careful
assessment. Nuclear electricity is a key part of our energy mix. He will know that
other technologies also involve a very high cost to the consumer right now. The mix
is vital, so we believe that this is not too generous. EDF aims to have the plant up
and running in 2023. We expect that, with a significant proportion of our power
stations due to close over the coming decades, we will need that level of investment
to replace that capacity.
The hon. Gentleman also asked about tidal power. Personally, I am as excited as he
is about the prospects for marine and tidal power, but again he will accept, I am
sure, that this is another new technology, as yet unproven. We have taken the first
steps. We expect it to be a big contributor to our energy mix, but not the only one.
I emphasise that, as Energy and Climate Change Minister, I have two priorities:
security of supply and keeping the lights on. In securing those priorities, I want
to keep bills as low as possible. With new nuclear in the energy mix, I believe we
can achieve all those things. Nuclear power is a low-carbon, proven technology that
will increase the resilience of the UK’s energy system and, rather than costing more
money, the full nuclear programme will, on current projections, save households
about £78 on their bills in 2030.
I congratulate the hon. Member for Newport West on his attention to this very
important subject, but I want to be clear that the Government believe that
developing energy from new nuclear is the right thing to do in the UK.

Paul Flynn

Mr Peter Bone (in the Chair):
The Question is that this House has—

Paul Flynn:
Mr Bone, there is some time left. It is normal to allow the proposer to use that time—

Mr Peter Bone (in the Chair):
Order. Will the hon. Gentleman sit down? He may not know the new procedure, but the
Question is put. If we reach 11.30, the Question cannot be put. If he wants to have
what I would call a Division on this, we have to do it before 11.30, and the
Minister quite correctly sat down in time to do that.

Paul Flynn:
There is time left. This is the normal practice. I just want to say that it was a
very disappointing response from the Minister, who stuck to a civil service script
that had been carefully manicured and presented by her, with a series of platitudes
that we all know about. She is not facing up to the crisis that exists in nuclear
power at the moment—

Mr Peter Bone (in the Chair):
Order. Before hon. Members go, I point out that the new procedure asks for the
Question to be put. The Minister kindly sat down at the right time, but the hon.
Gentleman in charge has talked himself out of that.
Motion lapsed (Standing Order No. 10(6)).
11.30 am

Kick Nuclear – Nuclear Industry Forum

kicknuclear-logosmallNuclear Fuel Chain in the North West

A Message from Kick Nuclear to the Nuclear Industry Forum 2015.

We are here this morning to again advise you of the error of your ways. Civilian nuclear power was only ever a fig leaf for nuclear bomb making, and civilian nuclear power is no longer either cheap, needed or acceptable.

Don’t just take our word for it. The world’s major investment banks no longer back nuclear. This week, UBS released a report saying that within a decade, solar power will provide 10% of the world’s electricity supply, and that its growth rate will only continue to accelerate, beating coal and nuclear as the world’s default energy technology. “We believe the financial community and most industry experts largely underestimate the global solar capacity growth, as falling costs, supportive regulation and the opening up of new solar markets seem to go largely unnoticed.”

Or as Goldman Sachs put it last year, declining prices of solar plus storage mean that by 2033 homeowners will no longer need to be connected to the grid at all. “Power companies planning large reactors or continued operation of expensive old reactors will be in trouble in this new marketplace.” Boosting the prices charged for nuclear-generated electricity to protect these ageing monsters will only speed up defection from the grid.

Deutsche Bank went even further, predicting that within two years roof-top solar will reach grid parity in all 50 states in the US. US rooftop solar installation will, they say, rise from 8 GW this year to 16 GW in 2016. And this growth will only accelerate.

The real problem for your industry is that the costs of renewables are dropping rapidly, while the cost of nuclear is constantly rising. The crossover point, grid parity, was reached for the sunniest states in the US last year, and is even projected to reach the English Midlands within a year or two. Storage of the energy produced by renewables is the one remaining issue, but in principle it’s not difficult. Pump the water up the hill when energy is produced; let it run back down the hill through generators when you need it. And the announcement by Tesla of Powerwall batteries of 7 kWh capacity for $3500 is another nail in your industry’s coffin. You always played up the difficulties of storing electricity overnight, while downplaying the difficulties of storing your deadly waste for 100,000 years. Well, looks like that one is over for you..

Meanwhile, the ‘new’ French reactor, the EPR, is running into more problems every month. The flagship EPR reactor that Areva is building in Finland is 9 years late and has risen from €3.2 billion to €8.5 billion, which has led to the cancellation of a planned 2nd EPR on the site, (Olkiluoto 4), and a €10 billion court case between Areva and the Finnish power company. The reactor pressure vessel for the equally late and over-budget EPR in France has now been found to be made of steel with too much carbon in it, reducing its toughness, meaning any cracks that start will spread rapidly. And you’ve already welded on all the connections, so replacing the RPV will be horrendously expensive and time consuming. I doubt if the Chinese, who you also have delivered two similarly manufactured EPR RPVs to, are very impressed. Which, since you can’t build your desired EPR in Hinkley Point, near Bristol, without them, is quite serious. Even the massive dollop of English taxpayers cash offered the project, (twice the current price of electricity, index linked for 35 years) is on its own not enough for this cash-hungry dream project. One nuclear engineer (Tony Roulstone, Cambridge University) has described the EPR as too complex to actually build, “unconstructable”. Areva posted a loss of €4.83 billion in 2014, while its market capitalisation is around €3.29 billion. So the French Government has got EDF to take it over to spread the losses around. Ultimately, it’s the French taxpayer on the hook. But then you have never, anywhere, built a nuclear reactor without massive chunks of government money, have you? Adding to your woes, Le Monde reported a study showing that powering France from 100% renewables by 2050 would cost about the same as a mix including 50% nuclear, 40% renewables. (11.9 cents kWh versus 11.7 cents kWh).

5 of your ageing nuclear power stations got closed down on economic grounds in the USA last year. You have 388 operating reactors world-wide, 50 fewer than 2002. You produced 10.8% of the world’s electricity in 2013, down from 17.6% in 1996. An industry in decline. And still no solution in sight for your achilles heel, where to hide the waste. Waste that solar, wind and tidal power don’t produce. Japan added 10 GW of solar power during 2014, and Fukushima has moved the Japanese population from 30% opposing nuclear to 70% opposing nuclear. It is hard for you lot to compete with an alternative that is cleaner, safer and now cheaper. Bad luck.

And Fukushima continues to leak 400 tons of radioactive water into the Pacific every day, as it has for over 4 years now. And your industry has no idea how to stop it; it just knows how to contain the political fallout, not the real fallout that results from your deathtraps having a bad day. Windscale, Three Mile Island, Tschernobyl, Fukushima; each of your little ‘whoops’ events is worse that the last. Not just shot yourselves in the foot; you’ve blown your feet off.

So sorry!!

Produced by Kick Nuclear, London.

A Note from Radiation Free Lakeland – Brilliant that Kick Nuclear were there to highlight the insanity of nuclear power.  “Sorry” might be the hardest word – but in respect of nuclear accident, incident or just routine emissions …”sorry” just doesn’t cut it .