Extreme Energy and then there is Nuclear

Frack Off I'm already being F**KED BY Nuclear

Correspondence with the Extreme Energy network.

I’ve just read this again, and my reply does sound a bit off and exasperated.   So have written again asking  for Nuclear  to be included as an Extreme Energy by London University’s Extreme Energy Initiative.   Despite the last decades worth lack of  proactive campaigning against nuclear by Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, there are many different  groups campaigning for nuclear safety, nuclear shut down and against nuclear new build.  Somehow though they are largely ignored, dismissed and marginalised. Why is that?  Nuclear is the most  extreme energy there is and should be recognised as such.  Nuclear should be given at least equal billing as Fracking by the Extreme Energy Initiative.    Original letter below.

Tue, August 13, 2013

Dear Kate,

Thanks for your email. The founding of the EE network by the government
backed University of London and the lack of any acknowledgement from the
EE bandwagon that nuclear is reliant on all other extreme energies for its
existence is troubling. A cynical paranoid delusional might assume that
the pronuclear government has set up the EE network in order to divert
people’s energy and attention away from nuclear, certainly nuclear is not
given any of the Dick Dastardly treatment afforded to Fracking, Biofuels
and Tar Sands by the EE network. However, only Nuclear has the capacity
here and now to render this island uninhabitable from Glasgow to
Liverpool, all it would take is a stoppage of our precious and
increasingly threatened fresh water to the Sellafield cooling ponds.
Fresh water btw unpaid for by the nuke industry, while our water bills are
rising. Proposed new nuclear is diabolic, existing nuclear through
“decommissioning” is already accelerating the dispersal of radioactive
contamination to soil, air and sea.

Do feel free to use anything on the Radiation Free Lakeland website. As I
said we are all volunteers and our limited time and funds are used in
active campaigning.

Radiation Free Lakeland will continue to support grass roots Fracking
activists in halting Fracking. But we would not want to be associated
with the founders of the EE network, the University of London, who have
exhibited their own brand of Extreme Energy and abuse of human rights
here:
http://felixonline.co.uk/news/3748/university-of-london-bans-student-protests/

Best wishes
Marianne
xxx

> Afternoon Marianne,
>
> We do class new nuclear as part of this process of extreme energy. EE –
> in
> our preferred definition – is a process rather than a set of technologies:
> http://extremeenergy.org/2013/07/25/defining-extreme-energy-a-process-not-a-category/
>
> And just like coal/oil/gas where the easy to get stuff is running out – so
> is Uranium getting harder to get – the mining more destructive and the new
> more ‘efficient’ plants creating even more radioactive waste.
>
> The lack of representation that nuke stuff gets is due to a lack of
> contact
> that we have with anti-nuke groups – especially those who are buying into
> to this more holistic messaging rather than just single issue led
> campaigning.
>
> Totally get your palatable frustration – lets have a chat about moving
> forward with this? The shitty thing about nuclear is that the PR war is
> being lost and the green-wash is near total in it’s coverage.
>
> The EE bandwagon has a big fat space waiting to be filled by New Nuclear –
> but it’ll need to be handled carefully and clearly.
>
> Kate, FO xx
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Marianne Birkby wildart@mariannebirkby.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> A message has been received via the general contact form on the Frack
>> Off
>> website. Please find details below…
>>
>> Name: Marianne Birkby
>> Email: wildart@mariannebirkby.plus.com
>> Telephone number: 015395 63671
>> Subject: Fck Off – We’re Not Saying How Much Gas We Use
>>
>> Message: Dear Frack Off,
>>
>> Brillant stuff! As a long time antinuke campaigner I can only look on in
>> jealous awe at the mega galvanization you have achieved. I guess it
>> helps
>> somewhat to have had the Uni of London behind you to set up the Extreme
>> Energy network. Why isn’t nuclear classed as the Extremest Energy and
>> given
>> a dedicated website on the network. Fracking is vicious and nasty but
>> nuclear at the pinnacle has a very special place reserved in hell. There
>> is
>> no doubt that the dash for gas is being driven by the nuclear
>> industry’s/government ambition and need for immediate access to cheap
>> fossil fuel. Only the nuclear industry requires so much fossil fuel that
>> it
>> refuses to divulge how £much it spent on gas last year. With nuclear
>> the
>> polluted pay – over and over into infinity.
>>
>> In 2009 Sellafield spent £30m on gas
>>
>> Since then reprocessing activity has increased. Most of the gas will go
>> towards the insane crash programme of reprocessing activity and the rest
>> to
>> keep the wastes cool.
>> Sellafield is being tight lipped about its profligate use of fossil fuel
>> –
>> can’t think why!
>>
>> Correspondence with NDA below
>>
>> Dear Judith,
>> 2011-12 GAS USAGE – SELLAFIELD LTD
>> It is strange that Sellafield ltd is suddenly tight lipped about its
>> latest financial years gas usage? (In 2009 the amount of gas bought in
>> to
>> ensure “security of supply” to Sellafield was £30 million – FOI
>> REPLY
>> 9781940)
>> Radiation Free Lakeland request an internal review into the refusal to
>> answer our 2013 FOI request for the same information.
>> Best regards Marianne
>>
>> ➢ Dear Ms Birkby > > We are not in a position to release the price
>> paid
>> for gas used at > Sellafield, as this would damage the commercial
>> interests
>> of our gas > supplier (section 43(2) Freedom of Information Act 2000 and
>> applicable). > In applying this exemption we have had to consider the
>> public interest and > although release would fall within the category
>> “promoting accountability > and greater transparency in the spending
>> of
>> public money”, we do not > consider it is in the public interest to
>> release
>> information that would > prejudice future contract negotiations or that
>> would have a negative > impact on the “free market” undermining our
>> suppliers competitive position > in that market place. > > If you are
>> unhappy with the handling of your request you may ask for an > internal
>> review. If you wish us to undertake such a review please contact > me in
>> the first instance. If you are not content with the outcome of the >
>> internal review, you ha ve the right to apply directly to the
>> Information >
>> Commissioner for a decision. The Information Commissioner can be
>> contacted
>> > at: > > Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF > >
>> Regards > > Judith Hollands > Information Access Manager > > Tel. 01925
>> 802077 > Mob. 07713 072 700 > NDA, Herdus House, Westlakes Science &
>> Technology Park, Moor Row, CA24 > 3HU.
>>
>> It would be brilliant if FRACK OFF could acknowledge the nuclear
>> industry’s profligate use of gas and their arrogant refusal to say how
>> £much the public payed last year.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Marianne
>> Radiation Free Lakeland, voluntary, unfunded, unsupported by any
>> national
>> institutions such as the University of London ( I wish! )
>>

4 thoughts on “Extreme Energy and then there is Nuclear

  1. Reblogged this on Radiation Free Lakeland and commented:

    I’ve just read this again, and my reply does sound a bit off and exasperated. So have written again asking for Nuclear to be included as an Extreme Energy by London University’s Extreme Energy Initiative. Despite the last decades worth lack of proactive campaigning against nuclear by Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, there are many different groups campaigning for nuclear safety, nuclear shut down and against nuclear new build. Somehow though they are largely ignored, dismissed and marginalised. Why is that? Nuclear is the most extreme energy there is and should be recognised as such. Nuclear should be given at least equal billing as Fracking by the Extreme Energy Initiative. Original correspondence below.

  2. We need to all read this book over Christmas: //www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2587477/nuclear_power_trumps_democracy.html. It addresses academia too.
    This looks of interest:
    http://www.amazon.com/Warwick-University-Ltd-Management-Universities/dp/0851248292
    The nuclear state has often blocked dissenting views from academia..The UK banned some of its best minds from professorships during the Cold War and it probably became habit, if it wasn’t already.

  3. Besides better funding and support a big thing that the anti-fracking movement has is that the fracking is under people’s houses. I think that the anti-fracking really took off in the US when they started fracking under the houses of the upper middle classes. Even though the eastern half of the US is supposed to own mineral rights the oil runs under multiple properties so people can’t really opt out, even if they own their rights. Nuclear power stations tend to be put in poor rural areas, as you can testify, and the radiation is invisible. The visibility is only in the sharp rise in cancer since 1900, the beginning of which seems to correspond with a couple of decades after start of widespread use of x-rays and radium. Unless you can find an older academic who has tenure, academia is not worth wasting your time and energy on. They are either prostituted to the nuclear state or to private industry or both. Some places have even found means of removing tenured faculty. You have good reason to be exasperated. Sellafield has the densest concentration of plutonium waste in the world and the smallest evacuation zone, which should tell something. Greenpeace and FofE are doing some good work outside of the UK. They need to take note that a problem at Sellafield will make most of Northern Europe uninhabitable, especially given that it is still contaminated from Chernobyl and Russian Nuclear testing.

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